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Nicotinamide is an essential precursor for the synthesis of NAD. One of the proposed mechanisms contributing to neuronal cell death is excessive NAD depletion due to activation of PARP-1. Humans can tolerate very high doses of nicotinamide - it is used in g amounts as a cholesterol lowering drug. Human NAD levels are extremely variable, changing rapidly in response to alterations in dietary nicotinamide intake (indeed, nicotinamide (Niacin) is the most common vitamin defifiency in the West). Whilst nicotinamide is ineffective in inhibiting PARP-1 at the concentrations acheivable in humans (it is an extremely weak PARP-1 inhibitor), what dietary supplementation will do is markedly increase cellular NAD levels (I haven't got time to go pull out the literature support, but will do if interest is expressed. Neuronal cells with high NAD levels will be protected against excessive NAD depletion and hence cell death. In support of this contention, take a look at this very interesting mouse model abstract. This mouse has an altered NMAT1 enzyme, which is much better at making NAD. The mouse has very high cellular NAD levels, and, surprise, surprise - it is protected against neuronal degeneration. Now they speculate that this is to do with consequential alterations in the NAD dependent protein SIRT1 - maybe it is, but whatever the mechanism, the take home message is that high dose nicotinamide may be an effective neuroprotective strategy. It is certainly easy enough to test! Also - would make an interesting parallel study to my proposed PARP-1 inhibitor study.
Araki T. Sasaki Y. Milbrandt J. Increased nuclear NAD biosynthesis and SIRT1 activation prevent axonal degeneration.[see comment]. [Journal Article. Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't. Research Support, U.S. Gov't, P.H.S.] Science. 305(5686):1010-3, 2004 Aug 13. UI: 15310905 Authors Full Name Araki, Toshiyuki. Sasaki, Yo. Milbrandt, Jeffrey.Axonal degeneration is an active program of self-destruction that is observed in many physiological and pathological settings. In Wallerian degeneration slow (wlds) mice, Wallerian degeneration in response to axonal injury is delayed because of a mutation that results in overexpression of a chimeric protein (Wlds) composed of the ubiquitin assembly protein Ufd2a and the nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD) biosynthetic enzyme Nmnat1. We demonstrate that increased Nmnat activity is responsible for the axon-sparing activity of the Wlds protein. Furthermore, we demonstrate that SIRT1, a mammalian ortholog of Sir2, is the downstream effector of increased Nmnat activity that leads to axonal protection. These findings suggest that novel therapeutic strategies directed at increasing the supply of NAD and/or Sir2 activation may be effective for treatment of diseases characterized by axonopathy and neurodegeneration.
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<u>NAD synthase NMNAT acts as a chaperone to protect against neurodegeneration</u> Nature, Published online 16 March 2008 http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature06721.htmlNeurodegeneration can be triggered by genetic or environmental factors. Although the precise cause is often unknown, many neurodegenerative diseases share common features such as protein aggregation and age dependence. Recent studies in Drosophila have uncovered protective effects of NAD synthase nicotinamide mononucleotide adenylyltransferase (NMNAT) against activity-induced neurodegeneration and injury-induced axonal degeneration1, 2. Here we show that NMNAT overexpression can also protect against spinocerebellar ataxia 1 (SCA1)-induced neurodegeneration, suggesting a general neuroprotective function of NMNAT. It protects against neurodegeneration partly through a proteasome-mediated pathway in a manner similar to heat-shock protein 70 (Hsp70). NMNAT displays chaperone function both in biochemical assays and cultured cells, and it shares significant structural similarity with known chaperones. Furthermore, it is upregulated in the brain upon overexpression of poly-glutamine expanded protein and recruited with the chaperone Hsp70 into protein aggregates. Our results implicate NMNAT as a stress-response protein that acts as a chaperone for neuronal maintenance and protection. Our studies provide an entry point for understanding how normal neurons maintain activity, and offer clues for the common mechanisms underlying different neurodegenerative conditions.
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Thanks very much for this Dan - I hadn't checked the recent literature - but this paper adds weight to my proposal. I will get hold of a copy tommorrow and think about how both papers point to similar effects (ie neuroprotection) but suggest different mechanisms.
Certainly, overexpression/activity of NMAT is going to lead to increased cellular NAD, and my prior inspection of the niacin nutrition literature indicated that a high intake (we are talking well over the RDA, but known to be well tolerated)can modulate NAD levels. However, I only recollect one paper from some time ago that actually demonstrated this - much more work has been done restricting niacin intake and following the NAD depletion and its consequences - interestingly, cells with low NAD levels are more likely to die following DNA damage (I published on this myself about 20 years ago. I also know from the literature that eg cancer patients, the institutionalized and elderly are the people most likely to be niacin deficient - it doesn't take much of an imaginitive leap to asuume the same will hold true for PALS, particularly those with bulbar onset.
I have to admit I only thought about this today, but it's so simply testable and logically coherent that I am becoming seriously enthusiastic about it.
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Hi Barbara and Dan,
This is very interesting. It leaves me asking questions though. Inhibition of PARP leaves extra NAD to fuel NADPH oxidase. In view of the fact that the NADPH oxidase inhibitor Apocynin greatly increased lifespan in the mice has me wonder what will happen when you fuel NADPH oxidase with nicotinamide. Increased PARP is reported in the brain in ALS, yet reduced PARP is reported in the large motor neurons of SALS. I'd wondered whether apocynin may indirectly increase PARP in the large motor neurons. You'd mentioned in your previous post that nicotinamide may increase PARP due to the fact that it makes NAD available. It seems that apocynin may do the same.
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Hi Mary - I have no hesitation in admitting you know much more about ALS than I do! Having said that, I don't think one can be categorical that increased cellular NAD will result in more fuel for NADPH oxidase, unless it has been investigated (?) NAD is likely to be compartmentalized within the cell, which could affect its availability. The Km of the oxidase for its substrate will also impact on how much (if any) change in its activity will occur in response to changes in NAD levels. Barbarwanda
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Quote:quote:Originally posted by Barbarawanda Hi Mary - I have no hesitation in admitting you know much more about ALS than I do!
Hi Barbara, I'd suggest the opposite. That's why I ask so many questions. I haven't actually met anyone in person with ALS. Just a reminder that I'm a ex-nurse who joined this list to find out about SOD1 as I have a child with Down syndrome. I suppose I should be trying to influence DS researchers to look at ATN-224. Mary
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Quote:quote:Originally posted by Mary Reid Increased PARP is reported in the brain in ALS, yet reduced PARP is reported in the large motor neurons of SALS. Hi Mary, do you have any idea why the difference in PARP levels in ALS?
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Barbarawanda,
I am concerned with using high amounts of niacinamide due to the sensitivity that slow acetylators have with the aromatic ring of the niacinamide molecule. This is similar to the reactions seen with isoniazid used to treat tuberculosis. Some patients develop peripheral neuritis accompanied by high antinuclear antibodies associated with drug induced lupus. Because some ALS patients have lupus antibodies the connection was too close for comfort.
I looked up some data on ALS detoxification pathways. I thought perhaps ALS would lean one way or the other. Fifty percent of the US population are slow acetylators. According to the enclosed document this 1:1 ratio between slow and fast acetylators is similarly found in ALS. (1)
Slow acetylators will dump Vitamin B-6 into the urine in the presence of excess niacinamide, isoniazid, etc. causing a secondary B-6 deficiency. By supplying B-6 in conjunction with niacinamide all the symptoms disappear. Any reaction to using too much B-6 can be eliminated with magnesium.
Each one of these genetically conferred liver detoxification pathways has its own set of problems with intermediate metabolites. Fast acetylation is associated with large intestine cancer. Slow acetylation is associated with prostate, breast, and thyroid cancer.
Acetylation speed may interfere with half of your test results without addition of B-6 and magnesium.
The other concern I have with niacinamide is the cholesterol lowering effect. High cholesterol is found to be predictive of increased survival in ALS.(2)
Probably due to the cholesterol lowering effect, many reputable vitamin companies are putting high amounts of niacin and/or niacinamide relative to the amount of B6 in their B Complex formulas. It should no less than a 1:1 ratio. I would prefer a higher amount of B6 than niacin because B-6 along with magnesium drives metabolic pathways more often than anything else.
Best of luck,
Donna
References:
(1)HGM2003 Workshop Abstracts 2. Medical Genomics I
Presentation 64 Molecular genetic analysis of sporadic amyotrophic lateral sclerosis patients from Russia 1M.I. Shadrina, 1P.A. Slominsky, 1E.A. Kondratyeva, 1A.L. Zherebtsova, 2A. Alekhin, 2V.I. Skvortsova, 1S.A. Limborska 1Institute of Molecular Genetics, Russian Scientific Academy, Kurchatov sq.2, Moscow, Russia, 123182, 2Department of Fundamental and Clinical Neurology, Russian State Medical University, Lenskay st.15, Moscow, Russia 129327
At present the cause of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) remains uknown. The majority of ALS cases (90%) are sporadic and 10% of ALS patients are familial cases (FALS). The clinical and pathological characteristics of FALS and sporadic ALS (SALS) are almost identical. Current evidence suggests that genetic factors triggering focal initiation and then spreading of motor neuron degeneration may be implicated in ALS pathogenesis. Various hypotheses have been suggested as potential contributors of disease such as oxidative damage, detoxification processes, cytoskeletal damage and excitotoxicity. Genes involved in these processes, such as CuZn-superoxidedismutase gene (SOD1), Mn-superoxidedismutase gene (SOD2), glutathione S-transferase genes (GSTT1 and GSTM1), N-acetyltrasferase gene (NAT2), heavy subunit of neurofilaments gene (NEFH), glutamate transporter gene (SLC1A2) can play a causal role in ALS development. To investigate a role of these genes in ALS, we study mutations and polymorphisms in these genes in 51 patients with SALS in Moscow and control unrelated population from Russia. The mutation analysis of SOD1 has revealed two patients (4%) with D90A mutation and one patient (2%) with G12R mutation. The screening for A9V polymorphism of SOD2 gene has no significant differences between frequency of A9A, A9V and V9V genotypes in patients (21,6%, 49% and 29,4% respectively) and controls (18%, 54%, 28%). We found no difference between different genotype variants for GSTM1 and GSTT1 loci in our samples, including null genotype (0/0), which determines low level of enzyme activities and detoxification (GSTT1(0/0) genotype: 12% in controls and 21% in patients (c2=1,56; P<0,25); GSTM1 (0/0) genotype: 24% in controls and 38% in patients (c2=2,59; P<0,2).
***The comparative analysis for FF genotype (fast acetylators) and FS+SS genotype (slow acetylators) in NAT2 gene has not revealed any distinction in frequencies of these genotypes between patients (FF-51,92%, FS+SS-48,07%) and controls (FF-52%, FS+SS-48%)***.
Study of G603A substitution polymorphism in exon 5 of the SLC1A2 gene also has not found also differences between frequency of G603 and A603 alleles in patients (33% and 67% respectively) and controls (25% and 75%). Only when we have investigated L/S polymorphism of NEFH gene, we have found significant differences in SS genotype frequency between controls (6,7%) and patients (32,7%) (X2=9.97, p< 0.005). We conclude that SS genotype of NEFH gene, probably, is associated with the pathogenesis of ALS.
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(2)Neurology. 2008 Jan 16; : 18199832 Dyslipidemia is a protective factor in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.
L Dupuis , P Corcia , A Fergani , J-L Gonzalez De Aguilar , D Bonnefont-Roussel , R Bittar , D Seilhean , J-J Hauw , L Lacomblez , J-P Loeffler , V Meininger
ABSTRACT BACKGROUND: Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) is the most serious form of degenerative motor neuron disease in adults, characterized by upper and lower motor neuron degeneration, skeletal muscle atrophy, paralysis, and death. High prevalence of malnutrition and weight loss adversely affect quality of life. Moreover, two thirds of patients develop a hypermetabolism of unknown cause, leading to increased resting energy expenditure. Inasmuch as lipids are the major source of energy for muscles, we determined the status of lipids in a population of patients with ALS and investigated whether lipid contents may have an impact on disease progression and survival. METHODS: Blood concentrations of triglycerides, cholesterol, low-density lipoprotein (LDL), and high-density lipoprotein (HDL) were measured in a cohort of 369 patients with ALS and compared to a control group of 286 healthy subjects. Postmortem histologic examination was performed on liver specimens from 59 other patients with ALS and 16 patients with Parkinson disease (PD). RESULTS: The frequency of hyperlipidemia, as revealed by increased plasma levels of total cholesterol or LDL, was twofold higher in patients with ALS than in control subjects. As a result, steatosis of the liver was more pronounced in patients with ALS than in patients with PD. Correlation studies demonstrated that bearing an abnormally elevated LDL/HDL ratio significantly increased survival by more than 12 months. CONCLUSIONS: Hyperlipidemia is a significant prognostic factor for survival of patients with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. This finding highlights the importance of nutritional intervention strategies on disease progression and claims our attention when treating these patients with lipid-lowering drugs.
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Dear Donna,
I am away on holiday next week and don't have time to address all the the issues you have raised. I did consider the elevated LDL/HDL correlation with a better prognosis in ALS. Unfortunately the abstract was presented at a meeting (I presume) so no full paper was availble for me to look at. What does strike me, however, is that in ALS patients who are completely physically inactive and have muscle wastage, high cholesterol levels may not be surprising when compared to healthy active controls. I did wonder whether their better prognosis might simply reflect the better nutritional status of this group of patients generally compared to patients eg with advanced bulbar onset disease who may become malnourished. Basically, we need to see the final paper.
What I need to try and find out, and the information required may not be out there in sufficient detail, is exactly how high the nicotinamide dosing needs to be to achieve higher NAD levels. My suspicion at the moment is that the very high doses (greater than 1 gram) required to prevent hypercholestremia, are likely to be far higher than the doses required to raise NAD levels.
I'll see what I can find out when I get back.
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NIACIN NUTRITION AND MODULATION OF NAD LEVELS
First I need to clarify:- Vitamin B3 is niacin is aka nictoinamide / nicotinic acid - either of which can be used to make NAD in humans. The paper below (the only one I can find which has assessed this) demonstrates that a dietary supplement of 100 mg / day of nicotinic acid raises NAD levels in healthy volunteers up to 5-fold - a remarkable result, and what we would hope would exert neuroprotective effects. Furthermore, interchanging nicotinamide for nicotinic acid would presumptively remove the high cholesterol caveat raised by Donna. I'll post later on on the obverse experiments - showing that even marginal deficits in niacin nutrition can markedly reduce NAD levels in healthy volunteers. I am away on holiday in a few days time so won't be able to reply to further queries for a week Barbarawanda
Authors Full Name Weitberg, A B. Institution Division of Hematology/Oncology, Roger Williams Cancer Center, Providence, RI 02908. Title Effect of nicotinic acid supplementation in vivo on oxygen radical-induced genetic damage in human lymphocytes. Source Mutation Research. 216(4):197-201, 1989 Aug. Abstract The ability of nicotinic acid to protect human lymphocytes in vivo against oxygen radical-induced DNA strand breakage was tested. NAD+ concentrations rose progressively in lymphocytes to nearly 5 times baseline levels in human volunteers ingesting nicotinic acid (100 mg/day) for 8 weeks. Strand breaks decreased proportionately to NAD+ concentrations over this time period in lymphocytes exposed to oxygen radicals. After 8 weeks of supplementation with nicotinic acid, radical-treated lymphocytes incubated for 24 h evidenced significantly less DNA damage compared to controls. Publication Type Journal Article. Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't. Research Support, U.S. Gov't, P.H.S..
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Apologies - I realise that it is nicotinic acid (I think) that is mainly used as the cholesterol lowering drug. However, the much lower doses reuired to raise NAD leve;s (100 mg) compared to the gram amounts required to lower cholesterol probably means there would not be a problem.
I'm having to think on my feet here!
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Quote:quote: Originally posted by joannaQuote:quote:Originally posted by Mary Reid Increased PARP is reported in the brain in ALS, yet reduced PARP is reported in the large motor neurons of SALS. Hi Mary, do you have any idea why the difference in PARP levels in ALS? Hi Joanna, Sorry, I don't know. I would like to see studies with both PARP inhibitors as well as nicotinamide though, as it may give us some clues. Something else to consider is that interferon gamma drives the tryptophan - quinolinic acid breakdown. Increased quinolinic acid is reported in ALS. NAD is produced downstream of quinolinic acid. Is there a failure there or is there also increased NAD. That may explain increased PARP and NADPH oxidase in some regions. If there is increased tryptophan breakdown due to high interferon gamma levels, the maybe Anti-interferon from Dr Maroun's lab is worth a try. Mary De novo production Metabolic pathways that synthesize and consume NAD+. The abbreviations are defined in the text.Most organisms can synthesize NAD(P) from simple components. The exact set of reactions differ among organsisms, but a common feature is the generation of quinolinic acid (QA) from an amino acid - either tryptophan (Trp) in animals and some bacteria, or aspartic acid in some bacteria and plants.[1] The quinolinic acid is converted to nicotinic acid mononucleotide (NaMN) by transfer of a phosphoribose moiety. An adenyl group is then transferred to form nicotinic acid adenine dinucleotide (NaAD). Finally, the nicotinic acid group in NaAD is amidated to an nicotinamide (Nam) group, forming nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide.[2] In a further step, some NAD+ is converted into NADP+ by [[NAD+ kinase]], which phosphorylates NAD+.[3] In most organisms, this enzyme uses ATP as the source of the phosphate group, while in some bacteria such as Mycobacterium tuberculosis and archaea such as Pyrococcus horikoshii, inorganic polyphosphate acts as an alternative phosphate donor.[4][5] Neurodegener Dis. 2005;2(3-4):166-76. Links Implications for the kynurenine pathway and quinolinic acid in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.Guillemin GJ, Meininger V, Brew BJ. Centre for Immunology and University of New South Wales, School of Medicine and School of Medical Sciences, Sydney, Australia. g.guillemin@cfi.unsw.edu.auThe kynurenine pathway (KP) is a major route of L-tryptophan catabolism leading to production of several neurobiologically active molecules. Among them is the excitotoxin quinolinic acid (QUIN) that is known to be involved in the pathogenesis of several major inflammatory neurological diseases. In amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) degeneration of motor neurons is associated with a chronic and local inflammation (presence of activated microglia and astrocytes). There is emerging evidence that the KP is important in ALS. Recently, we demonstrated that QUIN is significantly increased in serum and CSF of ALS patients. Moreover, most of the factors associated with QUIN toxicity are found in ALS, implying that QUIN may play a substantial role in the neuropathogenesis of ALS. This review details the potential role the KP has in ALS and advances a testable hypothetical model. PMID: 16909022 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Re synthesis of NAD de novo from tryptophan.
I'm not sure what you are arguing here. However, it is evident that this de novo pathway, although active in many organisms, makes no significant contribution to NAD synthesis in humans. B3 is a vitamin - ie essential to humans - without it, NAD levels drop rapidly and they develop pellagra. This demonstrates we cannot make NAD in the absence of dietary intake of B3 (nicotinic acid/nicotinamide).
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Hi Barbara, I'd questioned whether we may expect increased NAD and nicotinamide levels in ALS as quinolinic acid levels have been found to be increased. If so, does that increase PARP and NOX2 expression? I've been looking at this Kegg chart and the enzymes expressed in humans are green. It seems that NAD and nicotinamide are metabolized from quinolinic acid in humans, although, as you suggest, it may not be the major source. I guess it must play some part. Nicotinamide: http://www.genome.ad.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=hsa&mapno=00760Mary
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In reply to the vexed questions about NADPH oxidase - I found this paper. Perhaps counter-intuitively, low NAD levels engendered by dietary niacin restriction actually activate NADPH oxidase. Since I am proposing high dosage niacin, leading to increased NAD levels, one might speculate that this will keep down NADPH oxidase activity? This group, led by Elaine Jacobson, are arguably the world experts in NAD metabolism and niacin nutrition - I will be meeting her in Tucson in May and will discuss my proposals with her - she would also be a good contact for the ALS TDI scientists regarding additional experiments that might be carried out in parallel with longevity assays in SOD1 mice - for example, assessment of NAD levels in mouse tissue.
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Niacin restriction upregulates NADPH oxidase and reactive oxygen species (ROS) in human keratinocytes Claudia A. Benaventea and Elaine L. Jacobsona, b, , aArizona Cancer Center, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85724, USA bDepartment of Pharmacology and Toxicology, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85724, USA Received 27 July 2007; revised 19 September 2007; accepted 11 October 2007. Available online 17 October 2007. Abstract NAD+ is a substrate for many enzymes, including poly(ADP-ribose) polymerases and sirtuins, which are involved in fundamental cellular processes including DNA repair, stress responses, signaling, transcription, apoptosis, metabolism, differentiation, chromatin structure, and life span. Because these molecular processes are important early in cancer development, we developed a model to identify critical NAD-dependent pathways potentially important in early skin carcinogenesis. Removal of niacin from the cell culture medium allowed control of intracellular NAD. Unlike many nonimmortalized human cells, HaCaT keratinocytes, which are immortalized and have a mutant p53 and aberrant NF-kB activity, become severely NAD depleted but divide indefinitely under these conditions. Niacin-deficient HaCaTs develop a decreased growth rate due to an increase in apoptotic cells and an arrest in the G2/M phase of the cell cycle. Long-term survival mechanisms in niacin-deficient HaCats involve accumulation of reactive oxygen species and increased DNA damage. These alterations result, at least in part, from increased expression and activity of NADPH oxidase, whose downstream effects can be reversed by nicotinamide or NADPH oxidase inhibitors. Our data support the hypothesis that glutamine is a likely alternative energy source during niacin deficiency and we suggest a model for NADPH generation important in ROS production.
Keywords: Niacin; Nicotinamide; NAD; NOX; PARP; Sirtuins; ROS Abbreviations: NAD, nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide; NADH, reduced nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide;
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I'm surfing medline today! Here's another more recent study demonstrating that nicotinic acid can raise cellular NAD levels Elevation of cellular NAD levels by nicotinic acid and involvement of nicotinic acid phosphoribosyltransferase in human cells. Authors Full Name Hara, Nobumasa. Yamada, Kazuo. Shibata, Tomoko. Osago, Harumi. Hashimoto, Tatsuya. Tsuchiya, Mikako. Institution Department of Biochemistry, Shimane University Faculty of Medicine, 89-1, Izumo, Shimane 693-8501, Japan. nhara@shimane-u.ac.jp Title Elevation of cellular NAD levels by nicotinic acid and involvement of nicotinic acid phosphoribosyltransferase in human cells. Source Journal of Biological Chemistry. 282(34):24574-82, 2007 Aug 24. Abstract NAD plays critical roles in various biological processes through the function of SIRT1. Although classical studies in mammals showed that nicotinic acid (NA) is a better precursor than nicotinamide (Nam) in elevating tissue NAD levels, molecular details of NAD synthesis from NA remain largely unknown. We here identified NA phosphoribosyltransferase (NAPRT) in humans and provided direct evidence of tight link between NAPRT and the increase in cellular NAD levels. The enzyme was abundantly expressed in the small intestine, liver, and kidney in mice and mediated [(14)C]NAD synthesis from [(14)C]NA in human cells. In cells expressing endogenous NAPRT, the addition of NA but not Nam almost doubled cellular NAD contents and decreased cytotoxicity by H(2)O(2). Both effects were reversed by knockdown of NAPRT expression. These results indicate that NAPRT is essential for NA to increase cellular NAD levels and, thus, to prevent oxidative stress of the cells. Kinetic analyses revealed that NAPRT, but not Nam phosphoribosyltransferase (NamPRT, also known as pre-B-cell colony-enhancing factor or visfatin), is insensitive to the physiological concentration of NAD. Together, we conclude that NA elevates cellular NAD levels through NAPRT function and, thus, protects the cells against stress, partly due to lack of feedback inhibition of NAPRT but not NamPRT by NAD. The ability of NA to increase cellular NAD contents may account for some of the clinically observed effects of the vitamin and further implies a novel application of the vitamin to treat diseases such as those associated with the depletion of cellular NAD pools. Publication Type Journal Article.
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Scientists like to propose models, so here’s mine. It is best envisaged as a circle.
The death cycle of motor neurones
1) NADPH oxidase activity produces free radical oxygen species (ROS.) in the mitochondria.
2) ROS damages DNA, leading to DNA strand breaks (free radicals are potent inducers of DNA strand breaks)
3) DNA strand breaks activate PARP-1 (PARP-1 is only active when DNA is damaged – and it has been demonstrated that that the generation of mitochondrial ROS activates PARP-1).
4) Activated PARP-1 consumes cellular NAD leading to NAD depletion
5) Low NAD levels trigger activation of NADPH oxidase (this statement is based on a paper I have discussed previously in this thread). This leads back to (1)
The above model is a bit of a “which comes first, the chicken or the egg” type of scenario, with respect to how ALS arises. Importantly, however, it’s possible to envisage that when this carefully regulated network becomes perturbed, a self-perpetuating suicide cycle will ensue.
Pharmacological intervention strategies:-
1) PARP-1 inhibitor to prevent PARP-1 mediated NAD depletion 2) Nicotinic acid to increase NAD levels 3) Possible synergy by combinatorial use
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Hi Barabara, When the Engelhardt team discovered a ROS cycle in the SOD1 mouse, I assumed that there might be a ROS cycle, or ROS cycles, in sporadic ALS. Thanks for articulating one.
I was wondering about the use of PARP inhibitors alone though. What would happen to cell with damaged DNA if they do not have PARP to either protect them or put the cells into apoptosis. In other words, what happens to cells that have damaged DNA, but are not 'fixed' by PARP?
Maybe, as you say, a combination of PARP inhibitors with nicotinic acid would be better?
Or maybe nicotinic acid by itself? (Although I think a combination might be better.)
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Scientists like to make models / hypotheses, so here’s mine.
Death Cycle of motor neurones
1) Over-activity of NADPH oxidase generates reactive oxygen species (ROS) in the mitochondria 2) ROS damage DNA – producing DNA strand breaks (ROS are very potent inducers of DNA strand breaks) 3) DNA strand breaks activate PARP-1 (PARP-1 is only active when DNA is damaged) 4) Activated PARP-1 utilises NAD to make ADP-ribose polymers 5) This leads to a depletion of cellular NAD 6) Low NAD levels trigger NADPH oxidase (see paper abstract in thread)
This model will generate a self-perpetuating “suicide cycle” leading to motor neurone cell death
Pharmacological intervention strategies
1) PARP-1 inhibitor to prevent NAD depletion 2) Niacin supplemention to increase NAD levels 3) Possible synergy of niacin/PARP inhibitor
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Hi Joanna I seem to have posted my model twice! (I thought I wasn't successful first time.
Anyway, a perceptive questiom regarding PARP-1's known role in DNA repair - my expertise as it happens (for a change - I seem to spend my time on this site pontificating about subjects where I am acutely aware I should be better informed). What happens if you inhibit PARP-1, DNA repair slows dowm - but it is not complete;y prevented. Now in proliferating cells, this slowing down of repair can result in damaged DNA entering the replication fork during DNA synthesis - with lethal consequences. In marked contrast, non-proliferating cells like motor neurones can readily survive this slowing of repair since no DNA synthesis on a damaged template occurs. In this case, although DNA damage is occurring due to excessive ROS, the danger to the motor neurone is not the unrepaired DNA damage per se, but the ensuing constitutive activation of PARP-1 leading to serious NAD depletion etc, as outlined in my model.
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